Why are dates calculated from January 1st, 1970? [duplicate] Why are dates calculated from January 1st, 1970? [duplicate] python python

Why are dates calculated from January 1st, 1970? [duplicate]


using date(January 1st, 1970) as default standard

The Question makes two false assumptions:

  • All time-tracking in computing is done as a count-since-1970.
  • Such tracking is standard.

Two Dozen Epochs

Time in computing is not always tracked from the beginning of 1970 UTC. While that epoch reference is popular, various computing environments over the decades have used at least nearly two dozen epochs. Some are from other centuries. They range from year 0 (zero) to 2001.

Here are a few.

January 0, 1 BC

January 1, AD 1

October 15, 1582

January 1, 1601

December 31, 1840

November 17, 1858

December 30, 1899

December 31, 1899

January 1, 1900

January 1, 1904

December 31, 1967

January 1, 1980

January 6, 1980

January 1, 2000

January 1, 2001

Unix Epoch Common, But Not Dominant

The beginning of 1970 is popular, probably because of its use by Unix. But by no means is that dominant. For example:

  • Countless millions (billions?) of Microsoft Excel & Lotus 1-2-3 documents use January 0, 1900 (December 31, 1899).
  • The world now has over a billion iOS/OS X devices using the Cocoa (NSDate) epoch of 1 January 2001, GMT.
  • The GPS satellite navigation system uses January 6, 1980 while the European alternative Galileo uses 22 August 1999.

ISO 8601

Assuming a count-since-epoch is using the Unix epoch is opening a big vulnerability for bugs. Such a count is impossible for a human to instantly decipher, so errors or issues won't be easily flagged when debugging and logging. Another problem is the ambiguity of granularity explained below.

I strongly suggest instead serializing date-time values as unambiguous ISO 8601 strings for data interchange rather than an integer count-since-epoch: YYYY-MM-DDTHH:MM:SS.SSSZ such as 2014-10-14T16:32:41.018Z.

Count Of What Since Epoch

Another issue with count-since-epoch time tracking is the time unit, with at least four levels of resolution commonly used.

Diagram showing different software counting from epoch by seconds, milliseconds, microseconds, or nanoseconds.


It is the standard of Unix time.

Unix time, or POSIX time, is a system for describing points in time, defined as the number of seconds elapsed since midnight proleptic Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) of January 1, 1970, not counting leap seconds.


Is there any reason behind using date(January 1st, 1970) as standard for time manipulation?

No reason that matters.

Python's time module is the C library. Ask Ken Thompson why he chose that date for an epochal date. Maybe it was someone's birthday.

Excel uses two different epochs. Any reason why different version of excel use different dates?

Except for the actual programmer, no one else will ever know why those those kinds of decisions were made.

And...

It does not matter why the date was chosen. It just was.

Astronomers use their own epochal date: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epoch_(astronomy)

Why? A date has to be chosen to make the math work out. Any random date will work.

A date far in the past avoids negative numbers for the general case.

Some of the smarter packages use the proleptic Gregorian year 1. Any reason why year 1?
There's a reason given in books like Calendrical Calculations: it's mathematically slightly simpler.

But if you think about it, the difference between 1/1/1 and 1/1/1970 is just 1969, a trivial mathematical offset.